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Who Gets the TikTok in the Divorce? The Messy Fight Over Valuable Social Media Accounts

When couples who make their living online split up, assessing the accounts’ future value and divvying them up fairly is a drag

By KATHERINE HAMILTON
Thu, Oct 24, 2024 8:57amGrey Clock 4 min

When Kat and Mike Stickler filed for divorce, their lawyers had a math problem.

Among the couple’s biggest assets was MikeAndKat, a channel on TikTok and YouTube in which they shared their lives with about four million followers. No one knew how to evenly split MikeAndKat between Mike and Kat.

“The judge was like, ‘what?’” Kat said last month during a podcast interview with Northwestern Mutual. “It’s a whole new terrain.”

Social media pays the bills for millions of Americans. But making a living online is more financially complicated than working a 9-to-5. Influencers need an audience to win advertising deals, and changing what they post risks turning followers away. Couples who showcase their love life online face an existential threat to the family business when they split.

For the lawyers charged with pinning a dollar value to the accounts to divide them fairly, it’s way harder than assessing a house or car. Fortunes can swing depending on which ex has the keys to the account. That was Kat’s argument in fighting for control of the TikTok channel.

“If the TikTok account was left to me, it would keep growing, but if it wasn’t, it would stop,” said Kat, 29, in the podcast interview.

She was right.

Kat got the TikTok, changed that handle to KatStickler and now has almost 10.5 million followers. She has another three million across Instagram, YouTube and Facebook. The channels, where Kat posts skits impersonating her mother and snippets of her everyday life, have earned her enough to buy a condo and become a small business investor.

Mike ended up with the YouTube account, which is now defunct. He now works in sales and declined to comment.

There are 27 million paid content creators in the U.S., and 44% of them say social media is their full-time job, consultant The Keller Advisory Group found.

The big bucks don’t come from views or followers. Brands pay influencers to recommend a product or service to their audience. U.S. advertisers paid content creators $26 billion in 2023, according to Statista.

Once divorce specialists tally up how much money the accounts are raking in, the couple can divide them, or one partner can take more and buy out the other.

But there’s one elusive factor in a digital asset’s value: the account’s potential to keep making money. Both partners have to make a case for their role in that potential. How many pranks did they think of? How many hours did they spend editing videos?

“There’s typically one person in the relationship who is passionate about social media, who’s driving the business,” says Cameron Ajdari, who runs a talent management group with his wife representing some of TikTok’s most followed couples.

It’s not always clear who that person is by the time divorce rolls around. Social media success often evolves quickly, and couples may not be prepared to track finances and labour.

Reza and Puja Khan say everything they’ve done to amass about five million followers on shared channels has been a team effort. They started posting about their wedding in 2020 and, within months, Puja was able to quit her office job. Now, they estimate social media brings in about half a million dollars a year.

Almost all of that goes into a joint bank account. It was a little overwhelming to see their incomes jump so fast, far above what their parents made, say Reza, 28, and Puja, 27. They hired a financial adviser earlier this year, but the idea of dividing their empire has never crossed Puja’s mind.

“This is the first time we’re actually thinking about it,” she says. “If I really went public with a hypothetical split, that could create its own momentum.”

The way influencers rebuild their brands after breaking up can make or break their careers.

If the person got popular by posting memes or makeup tutorials, they probably won’t take much of a financial hit from a divorce. But there could be more damage if a lot of the videos feature family time.

“One could take it over and they just rebrand, which is risky,” says Nina Shayan Depatie, a divorce attorney in Los Angeles who has worked with influencers. “When you’re looking at the valuation, you would have to consider that.”

Ayumi Lashley, 34, started creating social media videos with her husband in 2017. They made it their full-time job in 2020 and the accounts paid for her car and house, she says.

When they divorced in 2023, they both tried to elevate their personal profiles, but their fan base is still attached to a nonexistent relationship. She says she chose not to share much about the split and lost a few thousand followers, while her ex posted more about the divorce.

“A lot of people were very upset with me for not talking about it,” Lashley says. “His career is doing amazing and mine is not.”

Many content creators don’t intend to make videos of their daily outfits forever, even if it isn’t divorce that ends their careers.

“I always joke we’re like NFL players. You get five or 10 good years, but you take one bad hit to the knee and you’re done,” says Vivian Tu, 30, who posts about financial literacy to roughly eight million followers. “You can’t control the algorithms. You can’t control what is in vogue and what’s not.”

Tu says she is preparing for a life away from social media by developing other streams of income, including writing a book and hosting a podcast.

She is also aware of what divorce could do to her business. Tu wrote up a prenuptial agreement that included all her social-media accounts before she got married in June.

“My social media is my résumé,” Tu says. “Why would I allow anybody else to put my work on their résumé?”



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Rare banknotes can yield big bucks, if you know what to look for

By VIKRAM BARHAT
Wed, Nov 6, 2024 4 min

Even as the world increasingly moves toward digitised commerce, where transactions are conducted with the tap of a credit card and billions of dollars are moved electronically between banks, there is one group of people for whom hard cash is still king: collectors.

As an alternative asset class, collectible banknotes offer significant potential value to investors, and the market for these paper artefacts is thriving. Aris Maragoudakis , director of world currency auctions at Stack’s Bowers Galleries in Costa Mesa, Calif., estimates the hobby sees annual trade of well over $500 million globally.

In fiscal year 2016, the World Paper Money department at Stack’s recorded about $4 million in sales. By fiscal year 2024, this figure had risen to $14.5 million. The company reported an 18% increase in sales for world paper money (which doesn’t include U.S. paper-money numbers) in fiscal year 2023, followed by 25% growth in fiscal year 2024.

Elsewhere, the Noonans Mayfair London realised £5 million, or about $6.5 million, in world banknote sales in 2023, up from £2.5 million the previous year, a representative said.

The rise of digital technology has helped broaden the base of collectors. Online auctions, forums and databases have made it easier for collectors to connect, trade and research. Greater access to information about collectible money, as well as to collectible banknotes themselves, have transformed the hobby from a game of chance to a strategic pursuit where enthusiasts can actively search for and acquire valuable pieces.

“The advent of social media such as Instagram and WhatsApp have brought in a spate of new collectors, especially youngsters,” says Rezwan Razack , a specialist in vintage banknotes and chairman of the Indian chapter of the International Bank Notes Society, or IBNS.

While social media has made more people aware of older paper currencies and their histories, the declining use of physical banknotes has made them even more alluring and fascinating to collectors.

Where is the value?

Banknotes routinely become obsolete due to political shifts, security upgrades, monetary policies and technological advancements. The question is: Which ones are worthy possessions?

A plethora of factors underpin the desirability of collectible paper money. The major ones are:

• Condition:  The condition of a piece can have a significant impact on its value. “There are bills that sell for $1,000 with a fold or two, but finding one free of any folds, stains, or tears could be worth several times that,” says Maragoudakis.

The condition of a bill is evaluated based on a 30-point scale ranging from poor to uncirculated crisp. Within each condition, a bill is given a number grade; a higher number—on a scale typically from 1 to 70—means the banknote is in better shape.

For example, a 10,000-yuan note issued in 1951 by the People’s Bank of China, graded Very Fine 20, sold for $150,000 at a Stack’s Bowers auction. Three years later at another Stack’s Bowers auction, a similar note in better condition, graded Almost Uncirculated 50,  fetched $358,500.

• Serial number : Banknotes with striking serial numbers are often worth more to collectors than those without. On eBay, a rare polymer £20 bill  with the serial number AA44 444444  received 16 bids and sold for more than £317.

A set of four exceptionally rare  Chinese 1953 10 yuan notes from the People’s Bank of China  recently sold for $432,000 because in addition to their quality, they were consecutive in serial number.

• Scarcity : The appeal and worth of banknotes, as with other collectibles, are often tied to their rarity.

For instance, high-value banknotes were often printed in limited quantities due to their significant purchasing power, says Hakim Hamdani , director at large and a collector at the Netherlands branch of the IBNS. When these high-denomination notes are discontinued, many people cash them in rather than keeping them as collectibles.

Take the 1921 10,000-shilling note from British East Africa (now Kenya and Tanzania), of which few were printed and issued. At that time, it was equivalent to about $2,000, a substantial sum in 1920s colonial Africa. When they were demonetised, most were redeemed, making the few remaining in private hands highly desirable.

Dennis Hengeveld , president of World Banknote Auctions in Sacramento, Calif., says that depending on the condition, some of these notes have fetched between $35,000 and just over $100,000 at auctions.

A rare  $500 Canadian bill  from 1911  brought C$528,750  (about $386,400) at a recent auction, the largest sum ever paid for a Canadian banknote. The specimen features the image of Queen Mary and is one of only four of the bills known to exist.

• Error notes : Governments often withdraw banknotes from circulation to deter counterfeiting, but also due to printing anomalies such as incorrect signatures, numerical discrepancies, misprints and typographical errors. Such deviations can elevate their value among enthusiasts.

In the U.S., double denominations—such as a front displaying a $10 bill and the reverse displaying a $20 bill—are the most prized error notes. The value of some of these pieces could top $85,000, according to Heritage Auctions.

How can I get started?

Despite the potential for a lucrative return, experts say the primary motivation for building a collection should be enjoyment and an appreciation of the history that banknotes provide. It would be best to build a collection with the idea of having fun, says Hengeveld of World Banknote Auctions, which was recently acquired by Stack’s Bowers.

Of course, it’s essential to do your due diligence to avoid fraud. Always buy notes from established dealers and confirm their authenticity with reputable grading services. Independent grading companies such as Paper Money Guaranty and Professional Coin Grading Service provide authentication and grading to ensure notes are genuine and their condition accurately assessed.

Auction houses and local dealers offer currency notes in different price ranges. Online retailers (eBay, Amazon.com, Collectibles & Currency), dealers and galleries (Certified Coin Exchange, George H. LaBarre), and numismatic shows (the MIF Paper Money Fair and World’s Fair of Money) are other useful sources.

As well, there is no shortage of stories where people discovered highly valuable collectible banknotes in attics, books, dressers and photo frames of deceased family members. In Ontario, a rare Canadian $500 bill from 1911  was discovered among the personal belongings of a deceased individual. The nearly discarded banknote, one of only three in existence, brought $322,000 at auction.

Those looking to dip their toes into collectible money may find valuable insights in trade magazines including Bank Note Reporter and the Greensheet, or books such as the U.S. Error Note Encyclopedia and Standard Guide to Small-Size U.S. Paper Money.

Additionally, Paper Money Guaranty, the Smithsonian Learning Lab and other websites can offer a wealth of information on various aspects of grading, collecting and how to properly care for banknotes.